UBC (11-11) -VS- UBC Okanagan (7-15)

Box Score

UBC logo
0
vs
UBC Okanagan logo
3

UBC (11-11)
-VS-
UBC Okanagan (7-15)

Team Score By Period
Team 1 2 3
UBC UBC 22 24 15
Winner UBC Okanagan UBCO 25 26 25
Date:
2/8/2020
Time:
4:00 PM
Site:
Kelowna, BC (UBC Okanagan)
Attendance:
275
Officials
1st Referee: Ashley Shannik
2nd Referee: Steve Hewitson
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Match History vs UBC Okanagan

Match Details

Game Statistics By Set
Set UBC UBC Okanagan
K E TA % K E TA %
Set #1 16 6 30 .333 14 1 24 .542
Set #2 13 8 36 .139 7 5 30 .067
Set #3 9 3 35 .171 14 2 28 .429
Total 38 17 101 .208 35 8 82 .329
Team Statistical Comparison
Statistic Team Comparison
UBC - UBCO
Points
49.0
54.5
Kills
38
35
Aces
6
13
Blocks
5
6
Assists
34
34
Digs
34
34

Game Leaders

UBC - Leaders
Statistic Leaders
Kills Attieh, Gabrielle (9), Davis, Tessa (8), Robertsen, Jayde (6)
Aces Furlan, Olivia (2), Robertsen, Jayde (1), Attieh, Gabrielle (1)
Blocks Robertsen, Jayde (3), Davis, Tessa (3), Attieh, Gabrielle (2)
Assists Furlan, Olivia (25), Oxland, Kayla (3), Robertsen, Jayde (2)
Digs Price, Anna (8), Furlan, Olivia (6), Worsley, Laura (6)
UBCO - Leaders
Statistic Leaders
Kills Amaya Perry (13), Natalie Livingston (8), Hellen Lacava (6)
Aces Kenzie Wallace (3), Hellen Lacava (2), Abigail Dueck (2)
Blocks Abigail Dueck (3), Kenzie Wallace (3), Sadie Taylor-Parks (3)
Assists Abigail Dueck (23), Natalie Livingston (7), Hellen Lacava (2)
Digs Natalie Livingston (11), Hellen Lacava (8), Claudia Corneil (7)

Individual Statistics

UBC (11-11)

UBC - Individual
# Player SP Attack Set Serve Block Def Rec
K E TA Pct A E SA SE SA-SE BS BA BE DIG BHE RE Pts
1 1 Robertsen, Jayde 3 6 0 13 .462 2 0 1 3 1-3 0 3 1 1 0 0 8.5
2 2 Furlan, Olivia 3 4 0 7 .571 25 1 2 1 2-1 0 1 0 6 0 0 6.5
4 4 Attieh, Gabrielle 3 9 5 26 .154 0 0 1 0 1-0 0 2 1 5 0 1 11.0
8 8 Price, Anna 3 1 3 7 -.286 1 0 0 2 0-2 0 0 0 8 1 1 1.0
11 11 Kovacs, Cara 3 5 5 17 .000 0 0 1 1 1-1 0 1 0 3 0 3 6.5
12 12 Davis, Tessa 3 8 1 17 .412 1 0 1 1 1-1 0 3 0 3 0 0 10.5
15 15 Goodridge, Jess 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0
16 16 Oxland, Kayla 3 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
18 18 Worsley, Laura 3 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 6 0 2 0.0
9 9 Pippus, Heather 2 2 1 5 .200 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2.0
10 10 Hillier, Courtney 2 3 2 8 .125 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 3.0
20 20 Vermette, Erika 2 0 0 1 .000 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
TM TM TEAM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
Totals 38 17 101 .208 34 2 6 8 6-8 0 10 2 34 1 13 49
UBC - Individual
# Player SP Block Def Rec Pts
BS BA BE DIG BHE RE
1 1 Robertsen, Jayde 3 0 3 1 1 0 0 8.5
2 2 Furlan, Olivia 3 0 1 0 6 0 0 6.5
4 4 Attieh, Gabrielle 3 0 2 1 5 0 1 11.0
8 8 Price, Anna 3 0 0 0 8 1 1 1.0
11 11 Kovacs, Cara 3 0 1 0 3 0 3 6.5
12 12 Davis, Tessa 3 0 3 0 3 0 0 10.5
15 15 Goodridge, Jess 3 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0
16 16 Oxland, Kayla 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
18 18 Worsley, Laura 3 0 0 0 6 0 2 0.0
9 9 Pippus, Heather 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 2.0
10 10 Hillier, Courtney 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 3.0
20 20 Vermette, Erika 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
TM TM TEAM 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
Totals 0 10 2 34 1 13 49

UBC Okanagan (7-15)

UBCO - Individual
# Player SP Attack Set Serve Block Def Rec
K E TA Pct A E SA SE SA-SE BS BA BE DIG BHE RE Pts
8 8 Hellen Lacava 3 6 4 22 .091 2 0 2 1 2-1 0 1 0 8 0 1 8.5
9 9 Abigail Dueck 3 2 0 4 .500 23 0 2 1 2-1 0 3 0 0 1 0 5.5
10 10 Kenzie Wallace 3 3 2 6 .167 0 0 3 2 3-2 0 3 2 1 0 0 7.5
15 15 Sadie Taylor-Parks 3 2 0 7 .286 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 3 0 1 0 0 3.5
18 18 Natalie Livingston 3 8 1 18 .389 7 0 2 2 2-2 0 2 0 11 0 1 11.0
19 19 Amaya Perry 3 13 1 22 .545 2 0 2 1 2-1 0 1 0 5 0 1 15.5
2 2 Claudia Corneil 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 0 0 7 0 3 0.0
12 12 Nathalie Demers 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1-1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.0
14 14 Parres Holliday 3 1 0 3 .333 0 0 1 0 1-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2.0
TM TM TEAM 0 0 -
Totals 35 8 82 .329 34 0 13 8 13-8 0 13 2 34 1 6 54.5
UBCO - Individual
# Player SP Block Def Rec Pts
BS BA BE DIG BHE RE
8 8 Hellen Lacava 3 0 1 0 8 0 1 8.5
9 9 Abigail Dueck 3 0 3 0 0 1 0 5.5
10 10 Kenzie Wallace 3 0 3 2 1 0 0 7.5
15 15 Sadie Taylor-Parks 3 0 3 0 1 0 0 3.5
18 18 Natalie Livingston 3 0 2 0 11 0 1 11.0
19 19 Amaya Perry 3 0 1 0 5 0 1 15.5
2 2 Claudia Corneil 3 0 0 0 7 0 3 0.0
12 12 Nathalie Demers 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.0
14 14 Parres Holliday 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 2.0
TM TM TEAM 0
Totals 0 13 2 34 1 6 54.5

Play By Play

Set #1 Plays

Set #1 Plays
Serve Team UBC - Play Description Visiting Team Score Scoring Team Logo Home Team Score UBCO - Play Description
UBCO [Abigail Dueck] Kill by Cara Kovacs (from Olivia Furlan). 1 UBC Okanagan 0
UBC [Jayde Robertsen] Service ace (Claudia Corneil). 2 UBC Okanagan 0
UBC [Jayde Robertsen] Kill by Olivia Furlan (from Laura Worsley). 3 UBC Okanagan 0
UBC 3 UBC 1 [Jayde Robertsen] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Kill by Cara Kovacs (from Olivia Furlan). 4 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Service ace (Hellen Lacava). 5 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC 5 UBC 2 [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Kenzie Wallace] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 6 UBC Okanagan 2
UBC 6 UBC 3 [Cara Kovacs] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Service error. 7 UBC Okanagan 3
UBC 7 UBC 4 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 7 UBC 5 [Hellen Lacava] Attack error by Anna Price (block by Sadie Taylor-Parks; Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 7 UBC 6 [Hellen Lacava] Service ace (TEAM).
UBCO 7 UBC 7 [Hellen Lacava] Bad set by Olivia Furlan.
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 8 UBC Okanagan 7
UBC [Tessa Davis] Kill by Olivia Furlan. 9 UBC Okanagan 7
UBC 9 UBC 8 [Tessa Davis] Attack error by Cara Kovacs.
UBCO [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Jayde Robertsen (from Olivia Furlan). 10 UBC Okanagan 8
UBC 10 UBC 9 [Anna Price] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Abigail Dueck] Kill by Jayde Robertsen (from Olivia Furlan), block error by Kenzie Wallace. 11 UBC Okanagan 9
UBC 11 UBC 10 [Jayde Robertsen] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 12 UBC Okanagan 10
UBC 12 UBC 11 [Olivia Furlan] Service error.
UBCO 12 UBC 12 [Kenzie Wallace] Service ace (Cara Kovacs).
UBCO [Kenzie Wallace] Service error. 13 UBC Okanagan 12
-- UBC subs: Erika Vermette; Cara Kovacs.
UBC [Erika Vermette] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 14 UBC Okanagan 12
UBC [Erika Vermette] Kill by Anna Price (from Olivia Furlan). 15 UBC Okanagan 12
-- Timeout UBC Okanagan.
UBC 15 UBC 13 [Erika Vermette] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 15 UBC 14 [Natalie Livingston] Attack error by Gabrielle Attieh (block by Sadie Taylor-Parks; Hellen Lacava).
UBCO 15 UBC 15 [Natalie Livingston] Attack error by Tessa Davis.
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 16 UBC Okanagan 15
-- Timeout (Media).
UBC [Gabrielle Attieh] Attack error by Hellen Lacava (block by Tessa Davis; Jayde Robertsen). 17 UBC Okanagan 15
-- UBCO subs: Parres Holliday; Abigail Dueck.
UBC [Gabrielle Attieh] Service ace (Amaya Perry). 18 UBC Okanagan 15
UBC 18 UBC 16 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Sadie Taylor-Parks (from Natalie Livingston).
UBCO 18 UBC 17 [Hellen Lacava] Attack error by Anna Price.
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 19 UBC Okanagan 17
UBC 19 UBC 18 [Tessa Davis] Kill by Sadie Taylor-Parks (from Natalie Livingston).
-- UBCO subs: Nathalie Demers; Sadie Taylor-Parks.
UBCO 19 UBC 19 [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Natalie Livingston).
-- Timeout UBC.
-- UBC subs: Heather Pippus; Anna Price.
UBCO 19 UBC 20 [Nathalie Demers] Service ace (Erika Vermette).
UBCO 19 UBC 21 [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Natalie Livingston).
-- UBC subs: Kayla Oxland; Olivia Furlan; Tessa Davis; Courtney Hillier.
UBCO 19 UBC 22 [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Parres Holliday (from Hellen Lacava), block error by Jayde Robertsen.
UBCO [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Courtney Hillier. 20 UBC Okanagan 22
-- UBC subs: Cara Kovacs; Erika Vermette; Anna Price; Heather Pippus.
UBC 20 UBC 23 [Anna Price] Kill by Kenzie Wallace (from Natalie Livingston).
UBCO [Parres Holliday] Kill by Cara Kovacs (from Kayla Oxland). 21 UBC Okanagan 23
-- UBCO subs: Abigail Dueck; Parres Holliday.
UBC [Jayde Robertsen] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Kayla Oxland). 22 UBC Okanagan 23
UBC 22 UBC 24 [Jayde Robertsen] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 22 UBC 25 [Amaya Perry] Attack error by Cara Kovacs.

Set #2 Plays

Set #2 Plays
Serve Team UBC - Play Description Visiting Team Score Scoring Team Logo Home Team Score UBCO - Play Description
UBC 0 UBC 1 [Olivia Furlan] Attack error by Gabrielle Attieh (block by Amaya Perry; Natalie Livingston; Kenzie Wallace).
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Service error. 1 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC [Cara Kovacs] Service ace (Claudia Corneil). 2 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC [Cara Kovacs] Attack error by Hellen Lacava (block by Tessa Davis; Gabrielle Attieh). 3 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC [Cara Kovacs] Attack error by Natalie Livingston. 4 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC [Cara Kovacs] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 5 UBC Okanagan 1
UBC 5 UBC 2 [Cara Kovacs] Service error.
UBCO 5 UBC 3 [Kenzie Wallace] Service ace (Cara Kovacs).
UBCO [Kenzie Wallace] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 6 UBC Okanagan 3
UBC 6 UBC 4 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Service error. 7 UBC Okanagan 4
UBC [Tessa Davis] Attack error by Hellen Lacava (block by Olivia Furlan; Jayde Robertsen). 8 UBC Okanagan 4
UBC [Tessa Davis] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 9 UBC Okanagan 4
UBC 9 UBC 5 [Tessa Davis] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Hellen Lacava).
UBCO 9 UBC 6 [Hellen Lacava] Attack error by Anna Price.
UBCO 9 UBC 7 [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Olivia Furlan (from Tessa Davis). 10 UBC Okanagan 7
UBC 10 UBC 8 [Anna Price] Service error.
UBCO 10 UBC 9 [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Jayde Robertsen (from Olivia Furlan). 11 UBC Okanagan 9
UBC 11 UBC 10 [Jayde Robertsen] Attack error by Cara Kovacs (block by Abigail Dueck; Kenzie Wallace).
UBCO [Abigail Dueck] Kill by Cara Kovacs (from Olivia Furlan). 12 UBC Okanagan 10
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Ball handling error by Abigail Dueck. 13 UBC Okanagan 10
-- Timeout UBC Okanagan.
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 14 UBC Okanagan 10
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Attack error by Amaya Perry (block by Cara Kovacs; Gabrielle Attieh). 15 UBC Okanagan 10
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Service ace (Natalie Livingston). 16 UBC Okanagan 10
-- Timeout (Media).
UBC [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan). 17 UBC Okanagan 10
UBC 17 UBC 11 [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 17 UBC 12 [Amaya Perry] Service ace (Jess Goodridge).
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 18 UBC Okanagan 12
-- UBC subs: Courtney Hillier; Anna Price.
UBC 18 UBC 13 [Cara Kovacs] Attack error by Gabrielle Attieh (block by Natalie Livingston; Kenzie Wallace).
-- UBCO subs: Nathalie Demers; Kenzie Wallace.
UBCO [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Courtney Hillier (from Olivia Furlan). 19 UBC Okanagan 13
UBC [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Courtney Hillier (from Jayde Robertsen). 20 UBC Okanagan 13
-- Timeout UBC Okanagan.
UBC [Gabrielle Attieh] Attack error by Hellen Lacava (block by Jayde Robertsen; Tessa Davis). 21 UBC Okanagan 13
UBC 21 UBC 14 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
-- UBCO subs: Parres Holliday; Abigail Dueck.
UBCO 21 UBC 15 [Natalie Livingston] Service ace (Jess Goodridge).
UBCO 21 UBC 16 [Natalie Livingston] Attack error by Gabrielle Attieh.
UBCO 21 UBC 17 [Natalie Livingston] Service ace (Jess Goodridge).
-- Timeout UBC.
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Kill by Jayde Robertsen (from Olivia Furlan). 22 UBC Okanagan 17
UBC 22 UBC 18 [Tessa Davis] Attack error by Courtney Hillier.
UBCO 22 UBC 19 [Hellen Lacava] Attack error by Courtney Hillier.
-- UBC subs: Kayla Oxland; Tessa Davis; Erika Vermette; Olivia Furlan.
UBCO 22 UBC 20 [Hellen Lacava] Service ace (Gabrielle Attieh).
-- UBC subs: Anna Price; Courtney Hillier.
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Service error. 23 UBC Okanagan 20
UBC 23 UBC 21 [Anna Price] Service error.
-- UBCO subs: Nathalie Demers; Kenzie Wallace.
UBCO 23 UBC 22 [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Attack error by Cara Kovacs.
UBCO 23 UBC 23 [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Kenzie Wallace (from Natalie Livingston).
-- Timeout UBC.
-- UBC subs: Erika Vermette; Olivia Furlan.
UBCO [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Cara Kovacs (from Anna Price). 24 UBC Okanagan 23
UBC 24 UBC 24 [Jayde Robertsen] Service error.
UBCO 24 UBC 25 [Parres Holliday] Ball handling error by Anna Price.
UBCO 24 UBC 26 [Parres Holliday] Service ace (Cara Kovacs).

Set #3 Plays

Set #3 Plays
Serve Team UBC - Play Description Visiting Team Score Scoring Team Logo Home Team Score UBCO - Play Description
UBCO 0 UBC 1 [Abigail Dueck] Service ace (Laura Worsley).
UBCO 0 UBC 2 [Abigail Dueck] Attack error by Cara Kovacs.
UBCO 0 UBC 3 [Abigail Dueck] Attack error by Gabrielle Attieh.
UBCO [Abigail Dueck] Attack error by Kenzie Wallace. 1 UBC Okanagan 3
UBC [Jayde Robertsen] Attack error by Kenzie Wallace. 2 UBC Okanagan 3
UBC 2 UBC 4 [Jayde Robertsen] Service error.
UBCO 2 UBC 5 [Amaya Perry] Service ace (Anna Price).
-- Timeout UBC.
UBCO 2 UBC 6 [Amaya Perry] Bad set by Laura Worsley.
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh (from Olivia Furlan), block error by Kenzie Wallace. 3 UBC Okanagan 6
UBC 3 UBC 7 [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 3 UBC 8 [Kenzie Wallace] Service ace (Laura Worsley).
UBCO [Kenzie Wallace] Service error. 4 UBC Okanagan 8
UBC 4 UBC 9 [Cara Kovacs] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 4 UBC 10 [Natalie Livingston] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 5 UBC Okanagan 10
-- UBC subs: Heather Pippus; Anna Price.
UBC 5 UBC 11 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 5 UBC 12 [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
-- Timeout UBC.
UBCO 5 UBC 13 [Hellen Lacava] Attack error by Heather Pippus (block by Abigail Dueck; Sadie Taylor-Parks).
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Heather Pippus (from Jayde Robertsen). 6 UBC Okanagan 13
-- UBC subs: Gabrielle Attieh; Jess Goodridge.
UBC 6 UBC 14 [Tessa Davis] Kill by Abigail Dueck (from Amaya Perry).
-- UBCO subs: Nathalie Demers; Sadie Taylor-Parks.
UBCO 6 UBC 15 [Nathalie Demers] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
-- UBC subs: Kayla Oxland; Tessa Davis.
UBCO [Nathalie Demers] Service error. 7 UBC Okanagan 15
UBC 7 UBC 16 [Heather Pippus] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Abigail Dueck).
-- Timeout (Media).
UBCO 7 UBC 17 [Abigail Dueck] Kill by Natalie Livingston (from Abigail Dueck).
UBCO 7 UBC 18 [Abigail Dueck] Service ace (Jess Goodridge).
UBCO [Abigail Dueck] Service error. 8 UBC Okanagan 18
-- UBC subs: Gabrielle Attieh; Jess Goodridge.
UBC 8 UBC 19 [Jayde Robertsen] Service error.
UBCO [Amaya Perry] Kill by Olivia Furlan (from Kayla Oxland). 9 UBC Okanagan 19
-- UBC subs: Kayla Oxland; Tessa Davis.
UBC 9 UBC 20 [Olivia Furlan] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck).
-- UBCO subs: Nathalie Demers; Sadie Taylor-Parks.
UBCO [Kenzie Wallace] Kill by Gabrielle Attieh. 10 UBC Okanagan 20
UBC 10 UBC 21 [Cara Kovacs] Kill by Hellen Lacava (from Abigail Dueck), block error by Gabrielle Attieh.
UBCO [Natalie Livingston] Kill by Tessa Davis (from Olivia Furlan). 11 UBC Okanagan 21
UBC 11 UBC 22 [Gabrielle Attieh] Kill by Abigail Dueck (from Amaya Perry).
UBCO [Hellen Lacava] Kill by Jayde Robertsen. 12 UBC Okanagan 22
UBC [Tessa Davis] Service ace (Claudia Corneil). 13 UBC Okanagan 22
UBC [Tessa Davis] Kill by Heather Pippus (from Laura Worsley). 14 UBC Okanagan 22
-- UBCO subs: Parres Holliday; Abigail Dueck.
UBC 14 UBC 23 [Tessa Davis] Service error.
UBCO 14 UBC 24 [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Kenzie Wallace.
UBCO [Sadie Taylor-Parks] Kill by Jayde Robertsen (from Olivia Furlan). 15 UBC Okanagan 24
UBC 15 UBC 25 [Heather Pippus] Kill by Amaya Perry (from Natalie Livingston).